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Crist Blog | June 12, 2009Print

Damp Doublecarry Day

11:50 am: Showery, sloppy and off the turf for Friday's $109k double-carryover at Belmont on the first twilight card of the season.

First post is 3 p.m., with Commentator still scheduled to prep for the Whitney in the third race, where he's 1-5 on the ML for the $65k Kashatreya Stakes for statebreds. The pick-6, unhit Wednesday and Thursday, begins one race later:

I'll update the field sizes in the chart above after scratches are posted; I'm expecting lots of them.


--Commentator, who finished second to Curlin in the balloting for champion older male last year, is the first of five multiple G1 winners running in the next three days who have been finalists for Eclipse Awards over the last two years:

I'll be back when today's scratches are up.


1:20 pm: The sun's out for a while on what's turning into a steamy afternoon. Scratches are in, including 26 of them in the pick-6 sequence. We're down to a 7x7x7x5x5x8. You can buy it for $137,200. I was planning on about $136k less.

Scratches:

4th: 1,9,10; 5th: 2,3,4; 6th: 4; 7th: 1,2,2b,4,6,7,8,9; 8th:1a,2,4,5,6,7; 9th: 1a,5,7,9,11


Ajacover2:45 pm: Regardless of how the pick-6 comes out, it's been a winning day: I had been bummed out that the only three days that the summer Steely Dan tour was coming through New York were the first three days of Saratoga. I schemed and checked Albany airline schedules, but there was just no way to make an 8 pm curtain without missing some racing. But this morning they added three more shows including one on August 4, the first dark day of the meeting, and I just grabbed a pair online. Early warning: I might not be back in time for the early double Aug. 5th.

 

4:20 pm: Well that was weird. Commentator won the Kashatreya at 1-5 as expected, but that had to be the first time in his career that he's run faster late than early. Commentator, ridden by John Velazquez, absolutely strolled to the lead, getting away with a half-length lead through an opening half-mile in 48.94, which just about warmed him up enough to run the second half-mile in 46.71 for an easy 7-length victory in 1:35.65. You'd call it a paid public workout if he'd had to work at any point. Commentator, now 14- for 23, ran his four quarters in 24.75, 24.19, 23.23 and 23.48.

The weird fractions weren't a function of the wet (now officially "muddy") track. Once race earlier, maiden claimers went the opening half in 46.93 and finished in 1:39.04, meaning the second half of that race went in 52.11.

Seven firsters in the upcoming first leg. The Rick Dutrow trainee opened as the 8-5 favorite, but the surprise was that the CO-second choices come from Todd Pletcher and Kathleen Feron. When a Pletcher and a Feron firster are the same price, that suggests a LOT of whispers on Feron, not so much on Pletcher. At least that's how I'm proceeding.

Time to put in the tickets.


4:45 pm: Guessed right with Dutrow and Feron, who ran 1-2 in that order to open up my "C" tickets later on. The play below ran $1260 -- $648 for the all-A's-andB's main ticket, and six backups totalling another $612:

 

Why did I single the Dutrow firster as an A? Well, in addition to my wanting to keep the play to around $1200,it was how heavily he was pounded in the multirace bets, especially in the double from Commentator -- which paid the exact same $5.30 for $2 that Cajun Jet did to win.

The Feron firster, Cayo Hueso, broke sharply under Prado and went to the lead under Prado, who looked back to his inside at the top of the stretch as if he were home free. But Cajun Jet, who'd been third behind him at the rail, had just switched to the outside and suddenly blew past Prado and Cayo Hueso, seemingly before he saw them coming, to win by 3 1/4 lengths in 57.76.


5:05 pm: I wasn't entirely sold on the Papa Jerry/Five Demon Bag entry at 3-5, but they ran 1-2 with no one else close to complete a very chalky start to the sequence.

I guess the people who pounded Cajun Jet in the 3-4 double didn't get involved in the 3-4-5 pick-3: The Commentator-Cajun Jet double paid $5.30, but the pick-3 adding a 3-5 shot paid more than three times as much at $16.40.


Berlinwall 6:15 pm: Ask me in an hour whether I'm glad that 6-1 I'llthinkofsumthin nosed out 1-1 Salt Water Reign. If I get there with my sad little 2x1 ticket, it will have been a delightful result, but with the fave I'd have been3x2 and 2x4 and 4x1, albeit preceded by four straight winning favorites.

In the meantime: Free at last! My weekend columns have been liberated from behind the paywall and you can click here to read the one in the Sunday paper. Feel free to use this blog to quarrel or huzzah about any of them, starting with this offering on why we should leave the Triple Crown alone.


6:45 pm: You only had to wait half an hour to ask. On the other hand, I'm not going to whine about not being alive to a pick-6 that would probably be paying less than I put in had an even-money shot won.  Hopeful Image was a big price at $19.20 as my third choice, but alas a B when I needed an A. The probables are $4,867 to the 12, Seek On, and $5,270 to the 10, Brockly Rob, but since all the scratched horses are listed with a probable of $5,270, those willpays may be based on Brockly Rob's having opened a slight favorite. I suspect that honor will go to Seek On by post time, perhaps changing the payoffs slightly.


7:30 pm: Brockly Rob easily, Seek On never got a call and checked in next-to-last as the favorite. The sequence paid $5,270. On to tomorrow.

Posted by Steven Crist Jun 12, 2009 11:50:50 AM | Permalink



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matt_m says:

Steve,

Any chance you've read this new biography of British handicapper Patrick Veitch. Came up on my Amazon list....looks pretty interesting.

Enemy Number One: The Secrets of the UK's Most Feared Professional Punter (Hardcover)
by Patrick Veitch (Author)

Posted by Matt M. Jun 16, 2009 4:35:51 PM



soul_sister says:

"It... they demand, must be changed... It's not fair...Of all the bad ideas floating around... and there are plenty, this one may be the worst, simply because it would devalue, discredit, and ruin one of the very, very few things... that works just about perfectly... Change it, and the... new and dumbed-down version... will be diminished, and the asterisk will overshadow... This... flaws and all, has captured the public imagination for decades, and altering its fundamentals even slightly would explode all... created by that history. The thinking behind making changes may be well-meaning, but embraces a lot of fiction and nonsense. 'We have to do it for the poor... !' cry those trying to cast it as a human(e) issue... This is ludicrous. We... celebrate it as something truly special - unless we have given in to this attempt to disconnect ourselves... and thrown up the white flag... Lets stop trying to fix it."

Somebody finally came up with a non-religious stance against so-called "gay marriage".

Thanks Steve!

Posted by Soul Sister Jun 16, 2009 2:13:08 PM



andy_scoggin says:

Pick 5 carryover at MTH on Wednesday. 50 cent bet!

Posted by Andy Scoggin Jun 14, 2009 7:17:26 PM



neil says:

Off topic but i saw this on a harness racing site:

$15,000 claiming pacers will race on the turf at the Meadowlands on Friday, June 19.


Posted by Neil Jun 14, 2009 6:53:42 PM



kenfromri says:

Steve,

Thanks for the DONT TRY TO FIX THE TRIPLE CROWN column. I fully agree with you. My best racing buddy and my fiancee, a big racing fan who I met on the internet, in fact, both think we wont see another in our lifetime. I disagree with them and think we all have to keep the faith that a truly special horse will come along and all the chips will fall into place for him/her. I surely "aint" easy but thats what makes it so special I would rather have only one winner ever 10 or 20 years than 1 every 2nd or 3rd year. The "specialness" would be lost.

Posted by KenfromRI Jun 14, 2009 4:35:36 PM



gofor_broke says:

They are running a lot of 5 horse fields. Last Friday. This scratch at the gate made it only 4, and they had to refund show and exactas.
They have another 5 horse race on Thursday, a maiden for fillies to give Baffert a win.
I guess they couldn't find 5 NW of 1 fillies, because Anthony Dutrow had to take Cat Moves to Delaware.

Posted by gofor broke Jun 14, 2009 3:41:28 PM



barry says:

Steve : I just dont see Kip Deville going for it in the Poker. Why would Dutrow waste a bullet on a 60K pay day for such a classy Horse when he has bigger fish to fry down the road. The horse just got back from UAE- a trip that has ruined better horses. Dutrow will fatten up his price when he bumps up to a G-1 and place a large bet of his own.

Posted by Barry Jun 14, 2009 12:04:20 PM



bob_cordaro says:

Steve,
Just read your article in today's DRF about tinkering with the Triple Crown. I have to say that I totally disagree with you. I would like to see a Triple Crown winner every year. And speaking of cherished records in sports, why stop with horse racing. So I called baseball commissioner Bud Selig and suggested that he move all of the outfield fences in 50 feet. Don't know about you, but I don't want to wait another 75 years years to witness three guys hit 700 lifetime homers. Now if I could just figure out a way to break DiMaggio's record of hitting safely in 56 games. Hey,68 years is long enough. Any suggestions ?

Posted by Bob Cordaro Jun 14, 2009 8:38:55 AM



gk_in_wisc says:

Steve todays Belmont race seven had a declared NON-starter and it said all wagers were refunded... I take it- except the pick 4 wagers? I had keyed the horse and thought I would get back half my bets.. BUT I got the post time fav??? I presume... is that correct? just wondering

Posted by gk_in wisc Jun 13, 2009 9:10:47 PM



sherpaguide says:

what a great rant, prozacjack. I'm so sick of "Pros" that can't can't handicap ...and everything else you said...

Posted by SherpaGuide Jun 13, 2009 8:11:16 PM



steven_crist says:

mlnj: First they return the base bets so everyone gets his $2 back, THEN the remainder is split up. You can't really expect to get 20-1 to place when a 1-5 shot runs second.
Let's say the total pool were $100,000 and 80 percent of it was bet on the 1-5 favorite that ran second. How do you pay off the people who bet $80,000 on the favorite with only half ($50,000) of the gross pool?

kaufer: Even with a carryover, these things can pay below the parlay with a very chalky start, as happened yesterday. I also think you didn't get the same win-odds value of the only two winners who paid over 3-1 because both came in 5-horse fields where most people spread out if they narrowed early.

Posted by steven_crist Jun 13, 2009 4:47:22 PM



mlnj says:

Okay. I guess it's time for an explanation of "Net Pool Pricing" again.

Here, I thought I made the greatest bet of all time on Seattle Smooth when I bet her to place. The last numbers I saw on the NYRA site (at ZTP) had her with 21% of the win pool and just less than 2% of the place pool.

My understanding, and it has seemed to work on the bridge jumper show pools, is that with net pool pricing the pool is divided before the "take" is subtracted. So I was expecting 20-1 or so to place on this 2-1 shot. Instead I got $2.30. What am I missing?

Posted by ml/nj Jun 13, 2009 3:20:09 PM



arcstats says:

Hey Prozacjack - I'm one of those babyboomers (retired at 52, but contrary to your belief - I don't have my parents money) that you think can be lured back to the racetrack by all your suggestions. He's my suggestion - END IT. There is no way in today's world of Internet betting that I'm ever going to be a regular at a ractrack again. There is nothing the track can do to get me to come to the place.

Instead, give me several racing channels on all platforms (I'm a big Directv guy for sports wagering), all broadcasting in High-def and showing EVERY RACE at EVERY TRACK. Continue to solve the drug problems in the game and guys like me will be back in action.

Just watched the Ogden Phipps. So much for the idea that 3-ply 1-5 entries in a Grade I race should not be part of the Pick-6.

Posted by Arcstats Jun 13, 2009 2:47:51 PM



kaufer says:

Steve,

What do you make of this?

pick 6 carry yesterday: $100K+

pick 6 payout yesterday: $5,270

parlay of p6 winners yesterday:
$6,347

Posted by Kaufer Jun 13, 2009 2:34:05 PM



bochalls says:

Here's who I think may run well today @ Bel: R3 #1 Master-if he's ready off the layoff he will finish fast (turf only)....R5 #8 Senegal-just a trainer hunch play....is EZ Dollar in R8 the exotic bomb of the day??? May not get a pace to run at but can hit the board at a suspected 20-1 plus.... when I was younger the word on Steely Dan is that they were a studio band, like the Alan Parsons Project. Let's just say that some extracurricular activities kept them from touring! My favorites are still 'My Old School', 'Black Cow', and 'Boston Rag'....Countdown To Ecstasy was their best album, IMO.

Posted by bochalls Jun 13, 2009 10:43:42 AM



race says:

To Prozacjack---If what you wrote above wasn't so true it would be hilarious--I must admit you do have a very good wit, but I don't know if I should laugh or cry with regard to your writing---what's become of this game we love so much?----race

Posted by race Jun 13, 2009 10:08:43 AM



joe_s says:

Steve Crist is 100% right - it's a stupid and terrible idea to change the "Triple Crown", signifying the crowning of time-honored, age-old greatness.

To change it is regressive, not "progressive".

Wayne Lukas - I recall a Met Mile day years ago. I'd gone to the track because Dixie Brass was running, and at a price.

D. Wayne was speaking in the paddock before the races - cowboy hat, cowboy boots and big bold brass belt and all. After the Q&A, I went up and complimented him on his horse, Twilight Agenda, who'd won a fast race recently, which I'd bet at OTB, and the colt was running that day in the Metropolitan Mile.
"He'll run big today!" intoned Lukas. "He'll run big today!" Thick lips, wide smile just like a Peb cartoon - oh you can bet on that. Big Cowboy in NY.

The track was wet. Dixie Brass blew all-wet Lukas' horse off the track.

Some trainers are pleased to be nice to the horseplayer, genuine, happy to give the average horseplayer a tip, and here and there you might get a winner. That same day I asked a trained named Tom Bohannan who he liked that day and he said, "I like Sand Lizard."
Paid $8.
Lukas' annoying bragadoccio was enough to 'mess with my head'. I let the Big Cowboy in NY throw me off, and I cut back my bet on Dixie Brass.

And Twilight Agenda never even ran a single step.

Changing the Triple Crown is the worst idea yet.

What are the ulterior motives for changing what Crist says is one of the few things that really works about racing? Attacking good, traditional ideas that work as a "lack of being progressive" is an old trick. It's like the corporate thugs who want to destroy public education with their business model for education - they want something.
Why destroy the "Triple Crown" - exactly as it is, the people love it!

Posted by Joe S. Jun 13, 2009 9:31:45 AM



shoop says:

Steve, I don't think you'll get a whole lot of objection on the triple crown, anyone understanding accomplishment in sports gets it. But, where does the whole Pimlico thing fit in? If Pimlico fails it presents a problem that will allow a live discussion on change (even a small change enables those looking for bigger ones). I assume it won't be allowed to fail, but...

Prozac... nice rant, but too logical in many ways.

Last, like any sport, the grab for money has permiated the sport. Baseball, golf, hockey, and hoops have overexposed the fan base and created a lack of "must see" events. The triple crown remains, but outside of it, the money allows the top stars to pick and choose from too many options and water down the sport. Perceived talent is lauded and ultimately exposed. In this era of working more for less disposable income, too many dates and lack of quality racing leaves those of us with limited time in a bind. More twilight or evening racing might help, because noon on Thurs or Fri isn't an easy sell for most who have the $$$ to contribute to the game.

Posted by Shoop Jun 13, 2009 12:09:06 AM



fort_marcy says:

prozacjack has my vote for czar of racing!
The thought of the "Boomers" with all that disposable income would indeed be a shot in the arm for the horse industry.
Secondly, providing good affordable food and beverages would also be a draw.
I too, have written and spoken to track management and received the exact same response, in regard to food prices.
Thirdly, the attitude that many of the food and beverage cashiers is a complete turnoff, surly and downright disregard for the customer is something that sticks with any customer. What a difference a smile makes.
Lastly, all tracks should be free to enter, the days of racing being the only game are over with.Why should we have to pay for the privelege of spending our money at a deserted track?
prozacjack, please also do something about the bizarre take outs that are not standard at every US track. Why do we get gouged for different types of bets ie; win, place and show @15% and trifectas and supers etc @ 25%? BTW- shouldn't every track place their takeouts on a large board that every customer can see? This would be a start, then we could see about doing something about unreasonable tax laws, over saturated racing schedules, drug policies, giving an explanation for every claim of foul, improving scratches, change of equipment and other basic information.

Posted by fort marcy Jun 12, 2009 9:43:55 PM



yuwipi says:

prozacjack:

I love your populist sentiment and am a grandstand habitue. However, looking around lately I don't know how many positions could be filled responsibly. It would be interesting though.
Your number 4 point, on food cost, is my pet peeve at the track. We've kicked it around here before. The decision makers are insulated and don't even feel the need for an occasional disingenuous mea culpa. At this web site the editor of the industry standard takes them to task when need be, and there is not even a public nod that a problem may exist.
I would have to slide away from you on your last point though. I take my hat off to most public handicappers. Tough job in my opinion. Can't imagine not being able to walk away from a set of PP's when they start to look like a Chinese menu.
As a friendly aside, don't know if your aware that the medicinal part of your handle is outperformed by the placebo in over 50% of the field tests. I'm just saying.

Posted by yuwipi Jun 12, 2009 8:59:26 PM



pru says:

Mr Crist, great article on the triple crown. Callmetony, prado forgot how to ride a long time ago and he's now only useful for finding the live firsters.

Posted by pru Jun 12, 2009 8:50:15 PM



callmetony says:

if d'oro horse does win what do you think this Pays $1,000 ? Well I only bought a $24 ticket . So Back to reading your book I go ......

Posted by callmetony Jun 12, 2009 8:44:13 PM



saratoga_mike says:

I'm surprised the Pick Six only paid $5,270, compared with the $6,347 parlay especially considering the $109k carryover? I guess people really keyed off of the favorites in the first few legs.

CigarVacation - see Steve's review of Steely Dan in concert at SPAC on last summer's Saratoga Crist blog.

If I'm allowed, I recommend everyone arrive two days early to catch Cold Play on 7/27 at SPAC.

Posted by Saratoga_Mike Jun 12, 2009 8:39:56 PM



partisan says:

Prozac - what about giving season ticket buyers (or people who attend at least "x" number of days) "y" number of inches to use to cash (with reasonable dollar limitations) in losing photos during the meeting!!

Posted by partisan Jun 12, 2009 8:12:16 PM



sean_n says:

Cigarvacation,
SD is Fagen and Becker and a conglomerate of talented musicians. They are great live! Just don't go thinking that they are going to play Reelin In the Years, Do It Again and Rikki Don't Lose That Number. You have to be somewhat of a Dan fan to appreciate the setlist and the drummer Keith Carlock is awesome.

As for horse racing, I am off to the Delaware contest tomorrow. Weather should be dry tomorrow along the east coast, so we should get some decent turf racing.

Here's to keeping the triple crown as it is.

Posted by Sean N Jun 12, 2009 7:35:13 PM



beerbelly says:

Make the Travers the middle leg of the Triple Crown at a Mile & Three Sixteenth.
The Dertby 2 week before.
And the Belmont three weeks after the new Travers in the second half of September.
At a mile & half, naturally.
Horses will be more seasoned & unrushed as young three year-olds. The Breeders Cup will be 5 or 6 weeks after the Belmont.
Perfect.
Therefore unlikely.

Posted by beerbelly Jun 12, 2009 7:06:54 PM



callmetony says:

NOW PRADO REMEMBERS HOW TO RIDE !
I can;t believe it hes been a bet against this whole meet !!!! Now he knocks me out of PK 6 and PK 4 .. Don;t quite know what JV was doing on the 10 ?

Posted by callmetony Jun 12, 2009 6:43:27 PM



cigarvacation says:

Prozac-
At first glance I didn't want to take the time to read your rant, then when I relogged on I thought what the heck, best 3 minutes I've spent on this forum!! I am absolutely 100% behind you as soon as I stop wetting myself with laughter at some of your comments.

Posted by cigarvacation Jun 12, 2009 6:22:35 PM



cigarvacation says:

Steve, as a 44 yr old I have always enjoyed Steely Dan and correct me if I am wrong, but weren't they a studio band? I thought I remember someone in my past saying they are terrible live. Is it the same crew from the 70's?

Posted by cigarvacation Jun 12, 2009 6:08:54 PM



wayne80 says:

All right, for the fun of it, here is my ticket;

A) 3,5,6
B) 1,5
C) 5
D) 5,10
E) 3,8,9
F) 3

I differ from most in the final two legs, if I survive my single here I should be alive for a decent ticket.

Posted by Wayne80 Jun 12, 2009 5:16:40 PM



prozacjack says:

We all have a big gripe when it comes to the mis-management of this sport. So after 50 years of hands on experience, this is what I would do if I was appointed racing Czar tomorrow. # 1, I would line up all "the blue bloods" children that got a job in this industry, and FIRE every one of them that couldn't count past 10 without taking their shoes off. That would ELIMINATE 3/4 OF THE WORK FORCE, to be replaced by people in the grandstands. #2 I would launch a MASSIVE campaign targeting the "baby boomers"that are set to RETIRE with an estimated 10 TRILLION passed down by their parents. This group has more time and DISPOSABLE income than any GROUP in the history OF this COUNTRY.I proposed my Idea several years ago to the "Nit-wits" out west entitled "life begins at 50, like bring a friend and get in free, or you'll get up-graded to the club house, anything and all CREATIVE things to court THIS valuable group BEFORE they blow all their money on Las Vegas or Atlantic city.# 3 I would DRAMATICALLY change the way this "OLD MANS " game is played.30 min between races is way too BORING for young people that were raised on instant oatmeal, drive-thru banking and high speed video games....come on management WAKE UP.They can run mixed breeds in- between the thoroughbreds. Don't tell me you use that time to pick your horses, Your HOMEWORK should be DONE before you enter the track, that's if you want to gravitate toward being more successful. Baseball suffered the same circumstances back in the 80"s but management stepped up and figured out how to make the experience more "lively" they incorporated live entertainmen, of ALL kinds to keep the fans entertained.The name of the game today is ACTION..#4 I would LOWER all food cost, so that a father bringing his kids doesn't have to pay $3.50 for a DAMMED ice-cream cone, or a SENIOR citizen doesn't have to shell out $1.50 for a lousy cup of coffee. Management's argument for the past twenty years is OUR food prices are "in-line" with other sports venues. But they forget one IMPORTANT fact, other VENUES aren't asking you to BET, WAKE THE HELL UP management.You can pay for the reduced cost of food by taking all the MONEY management spends on "CHEAP" giveaways that have FAILED over and over again.Feed the people cheap and they will come.That is the position Bugsy Segal took when they thought he was crazy when he was trying to get people to drive through the hot desert, he fed them cheap, GAVE them free booze, and all they talked about when they got back home is that 99 cent prime rib dinner. WAKE THE HELL UP MANAGEMENT.# 5 free general parking EVERYDAY. You pass the cost on to the high rollers or people to LAZY to walk 50 yards.. It cost $20.00 to valet park at Del-Mar.#6 We as a group have to get MANAGEMENT out of the business of trying to promote carryovers when it comes to the pick 6 the BIG difference between Las Vegas and racetracks has always been that Racetrack management has NO INTEREST in the outcome of a race, TODAY that is NOT true and it's "BLEEDING" the BACKBONE of this business the FORGOTTEN 2.00 bettor that has dreams of hitting the pick 6 because of it being HEAVILY prompted by management and then the race cards "manipulated" by management to produce CARRYOVERS. This is VERY wrong. I have personally asked management to card 6 races on Saturdays made up with horses with FORM and watch what happens, the little guy WILL hit the pick 6 over and over, yes it will be smaller payouts, but the grandstands will begin to return to FULL capacity, because that "little" pick 6 for 7500.00 means a HELL of a lot to 95% percent of the people.#6 I would impose STIFF fines for ANY jockey that doesn't try his best at ENCOURAGING his mount to finish 1st, second or 3rd.And I mean STIFF fines, and all that money would go BACK to the people in valuable coupons for food and drink.Millionaire trainers millionaire jockey's all seem to forget, who actually pays ALL the bills and AFFORDS them their LAVISH life styles.# 7 All public handicappers that CAN'T out preform the public should lose their jobs and be replaced by the handicappers in the GRANDSTANDS that will prove to be more productive than some of these SO-CALLED experts that have worked at the FORM for years, and couldn't pick their own MOTHER out of a room full of BABOONS. Open those doors up Mr Crist and EMPLOY the best.This game needs to return back "to the people" and the people will return.

Posted by prozacjack Jun 12, 2009 4:13:56 PM



c says:

Steve,
Funny, I was looking at that show too. On another topic, it always makes me laugh when people say that someone else hitting a P6 on a cheap ticket gives them "hope". How? For all we know, this could've been a just-for-fun 6-way $16 apiece stab. Even if it wasn't, it was either part of a (much) bigger play or an absolutely superb handicapping and betting effort by someone having the day of their life. Let's assume it was a single-ticket play... this person had smarts and, most importantly, a lot of guts to play this particular ticket. So, if you have the top-shelf handicapping chops, a ton of self-confidence, and (most likely) a decent wad of cash, then yes, there's hope for you too.

Posted by C Jun 12, 2009 3:53:27 PM



dale_tillotson says:

A 108.00 ticket. Just my
opinion.
race4= 2-5-6
race5= 7-1-5
race6= 5-8
race7= 10
race8= 10
race9= 2-10-12

Posted by dale tillotson Jun 12, 2009 3:48:15 PM



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Steven Crist has been the Publisher and a columnist for Daily Racing Form since 1998. Previously, he covered racing for The New York Times from 1981-1990; was founding editor-in-chief of The Racing Times in 1991-92; and a vice-president of the New York Racing Association from 1994-97. He recently released an instructional DVD titled "Exotic Tickets," and is the author of several books including "Betting on Myself" and "Exotic Betting."