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Crist Blog | June 24, 2009Print

Night and Day

There's been a lot of talk here the last few days about the feasibility of running the Kentucky Derby at night, prompted by Churchill Downs's three-Fridays experiment with night racing that began last week. My initial impulse was to regard this as nothing more than idle and fanciful speculation, as no one at NBC or Churchill Downs has ever seriously proposed moving the race into primetime, but a couple of smart people in the television world tell me it's not the craziest idea they've ever heard.

Horselamp "My first impulse was to laugh," a veteran producer of major races said in an email message, "but as the concept sinks in I having a hard time thinking why it won't be considered, although I have not heard a single rumor to that effect. My reasoning is all about economics. Just as every other major sport has moved its championship events to the evening why wouldn't the Derby? The obvious issue would be weather. It would be a disaster to run on a dark. cool, rainy night.

"That said, there is much more viewership in the evening and television networks struggle mightily to sell the commercial time in the afternoon. Honestly not sure if the inventory would be easier or harder to sell. If night racing would attract a larger rights payment and more money to be made for the presenting network then everything could be in play. Churchill has shareholders to report to and a very disciplined management team aimed at meeting or exceeding financial expectations. In my opinion tradition will play very little part in the decision.

"I think the Derby has three or 4 more years left on its current deal with NBC so I would be surprised if anything changed short term. I would expect to see Churchill consider more experimental night racing in the future. Perhaps Stephen Foster Day, which seemingly underperforms many of the "Super Saturday" concept days around the nation. It will be interesting to see how they do this Friday and next Thursday."


--Four of today's five grass races at Belmont are still on the turf, including three of the four in the $154k double-carryover pick-6 sequence. Only the 5th, a turf sprint, has been moved to the main track.

The condition of the turf course, which hasn't been used since last Wednesday, will be a key factor today. It's being called "yielding," but it's anyone's guess. There hasn't been as much rain the last couple of days as in the preceding week, and the next dose isn't supposed to arrive until tonight. The first race, scheduled for 1 p.m., should offer some clues.

After 17 late scratches, the pick-six sequence has fields of 7, 6, 11, 7, 10 and 10, a mere 323,400 possible combos that I hope to whittle down by around 99.8 percent by the time the thing starts at 2:30 pm.


1:35 pm: "Yielding" may be an understatement. The opener, for $25k N3L claimers, was run in 1:46.57 for a mile and a sixteenth, more than eight seconds off the course record. Favored Day Dee tired badly after getting clear in 24.24 and 49.57, and second choice Mask and Wig stalked from second, took over through 6f in 1:14.57, and won by two lengths.


2:20 pm: It's pouring again here 4.7 miles northeast at Belmont but not there at the moment. Races 6, 8 and 9 still scheduled for the grass.


2:45 pm: Here's the $624 play, as much as I felt like investing amid tricky races and uncertain weather. The first leg broke slightly the best way for me, as I leaned against the longtime 0-for-lifers in the field (like 0-for-15 Esquivalience at 5-2) and focussed on the more lightly-raced Saint Midas ($8.90) and the steamy firster, 2-1 Scholarly Pursuit, who ran 1-2 in that order. That keeps alive my C tickets, which I hope survive until the 8th race, where I have the shakiest of A singles in Nedjma. She hasn't been out since November and the 7f distance may be too short, but she's just a notch better than today's opponents and drops into allowance company after five straight stakes tries last fall. I just didn't know where else to take a shot. 

3:50 pm: Arggh. A 5-1 A (Storm Hope) failed to catch a 5-1 C (Quiet On the Tee), so I'm down to a pretty hopeless 2x1x2. I thought Storm Hope, steadied and shuffled back to 9th at the top of the stretch, was best but I might be prejudiced.

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4:50 pm: Technically lasted another hour, but Nedjma didn't fire her best shot finishing an even third and I wouldn't have used Crazy Catlady ($27.40, 9th choice in a field of 10) against her if you'd given me $5k in counterfeit money to play.

There are 121 combos alive into the finale, 106 of them on the four favorites, ranging from 35 on Sarah's Sally ($15,408) to just one on Jackpot Julie ($539,292). Only two of the 10 are uncovered: Cat Grace (#5) and Cottage Industry (#8). Good luck if you're still in it....


5:25 pm:...and congratulations if you were still in it and were one of the 16 tickets alive to Carmen's Kiss ($7.90). The sequence returned $33,705 for 6/6, more than the posted will-pay of $29,960. Since the will-pay worked out to 18 tickets rather than 16, have to think that there were two tickets alive to scratched horses. For wil-pay purposes, those tickets were assumed transferred to the morning-line favorite, Carmen's Kiss, but by post time there was $44,971 bet on Sarah's Sally and $41,945 on Carmen's Kiss, so those two tickets were apparently switched to Sarah's Sally.

Posted by Steven Crist Jun 24, 2009 12:16:33 PM | Permalink



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brad_graham says:

Hello Steve,
Two weeks until opening day at Saratoga and I have a pick six question. A couple buddies and I have attended opening weekend for the last several years and this year will not be an exception. Last year the three of us were fortunate to hit the pick six for about $10,000 total. I cashed the ticket and taxes were withheld. We divided the balance between us. I told my partners that I would refund some additional money once my tax return was complete. I know that you have cashed many a IRS ticket, what is your rule for distribution of the withholdings to others? These are my friends and I want to be fair but not over pay. Thank you.

Posted by Brad Graham Jul 15, 2009 3:48:57 PM



alan_grant says:

Crazy Catlady in the 8th on June 24th - how could you write that you wouldn't bet her with counterfeit money?

She was one of two who showed a proclivity for gd/yld turf; second race in comebacker with two works and had 2nd best (to Nedjma)late pace numbers.

Posted by Alan Grant Jun 30, 2009 5:13:19 AM



tom_mcdonough says:

I can't understand why you were so opposed to Crazy Catlady-two of her last four Beyers were in the 80's-one of them on yielding turf-at the price, I thought her quite attractive...

Posted by tom mcdonough Jun 29, 2009 10:59:45 AM



jcp says:

Maylan broke her leg in a shedrow accident about 10 days ago and had to have surgery....Notice that Carol Cedeno has re-surfaced...

Posted by jcp Jun 27, 2009 12:13:27 PM



bob says:

Steve, pls take up a management position @ DRF and replace the person who does the Race of the Day....they are obviously out of touch or stressed out. I work at a grocery store collecting carts and could make a better choice than The Mother Goose with only four runners, one a prohibitive favorite.

Posted by Bob Jun 27, 2009 11:18:16 AM



bochalls says:

Military Mandate won race 4 at Stockton on Thursday....off a 6 YEAR LAYOFF! Hadn't raced since Aug 17 of 2003....wow.

Posted by bochalls Jun 27, 2009 10:06:59 AM



wayne80 says:

PS _ This year I have emailed three different NYRA departments for three different, legitamate, reasons, and did not get a single response.

Way to treat your customers.

Posted by Wayne80 Jun 27, 2009 9:27:34 AM



wayne80 says:

How do you expect NYRA to get out those Spa tickets when they cant even mail the Belmont Stakes tickets until ten days before their biggest event of the year?

After all, a dozen employees can not expect to handle the once a year rush for 25k advance tickets, can they?

Time to outsource ticketing to a company like ticketmaster that actually knows what they are doing, even if you end up paying for that service.

By the time NYRA pays all those employees they probably lose money on the whole advance ticketing situation.

Posted by Wayne80 Jun 27, 2009 9:24:41 AM



putting_green says:

jcp....I have worked in customer service for NYRA at the Spa for 9 years now, and what you say regarding seating at Saratoga is true. It is almost always possible to get seating the day you are there. The reserved ticket and group sales booth opens at 8am every racing day. For sure they will have seats for Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, but also the other days, with the exception of Travers day and maybe a few other Saturdays. The key is to get to the booth early...as in 8am.

Posted by putting_green Jun 27, 2009 7:30:59 AM



don_reed says:

It was only a matter of time before Jess started irritating people.

Again.

Good luck, Cal & Rachel. I'm bettin' against ya, but it's nothing personal.

Everyone has to lose someday.

And we bettors do seem to get plenty of practice at that.

(Imagine the Fahrenheit this posting rendezvous would rise to, if the losing horses were to start contributing their beefs!)

Any chance we can send the ENTIRE NY State Senate to Argentina?

Steve, post a want ad in the Buenos Aires newspapers for 62 bombshells (make sure it specifies, "irresistible").

Send Spitzer down as an advance man.

Who knows, you might get the "streaming" feud resolved if the dolts are sent way down yonder.

Posted by Don Reed Jun 27, 2009 1:25:01 AM



steven_crist says:

Tyke: No inside info -- I just figure it out backwards from the will-pays once they're posted.

Posted by steven_crist Jun 27, 2009 1:00:36 AM



tyke_from_the_cackalacky says:

Steve-
How are you able to know how many tickets are alive to any given runner in the last race of a Pick 6? Seems like you post this information right after the 5th race in the sequence.

Posted by Tyke from the Cackalacky Jun 26, 2009 9:58:27 PM



jcp says:

We used to send advance money up to SAR and stopped for all the reasons you guys have pointed out...However, we have always been able to get reserved seats on the days we actually go, right at the track...

Posted by jcp Jun 26, 2009 3:20:19 PM



michael_costello says:

Am I mistaken, or didn't Rachel Alexandra owner Jess Jackson know damn well that the Breeders' Cup would be at Santa Anita this year. If this was a problem, maybe he should have kept his wallet shut.

And isn't it interesting that the racing world was treated to Rachel in the Preakness, but perhaps at the cost of having her in the BC. With a win at Keeneland last year, obviously her old owners didn't have any problems with the so-called 'plastics'.

Posted by michael_costello Jun 26, 2009 11:18:32 AM



ponyman says:

Firestones--Dunlops--Bridgestones--are for cars to run on--NOT HORSES--Dirt & Turf ONLY---Jrss Jackson is RIGHT.

Posted by ponyman Jun 26, 2009 6:55:20 AM



marty says:

Englishchannel.........don't count on getting any Saratoga tickets. Catergory 3's have no shot. They give out 90% of the tickets to entire meet buyers, the rest go to people that buy full weeks. I tried last year to get Fri-Mon..... no chance. Didn't get my refund until I asked for it.

Posted by Marty Jun 25, 2009 11:42:08 PM



stonefish51 says:

Walt & Steve,

Thanks for your answers. I see where I missed the phrase discounting wins for less than $10,000.

Posted by stonefish51 Jun 25, 2009 10:42:09 PM



yuwipi says:

englishchannel:

It should work something like this - shortly you will receive an envelope - it will be empty - it will be postmarked, but the sealing adhesive will not have been engaged - you will be left to conclude that your tickets have fallen out in transit - you will call NYRA to inquire - you will be told "they all went out that way, the real tickets are going out this week." Exactly what I experienced earlier this year regarding Spa seat order forms.
I get no jollies poking fun at NYRA, but they should know that having a finalized ticket envelope in hand makes it a lot easier to tie up what can be expensive lodging and travel plans.

Posted by yuwipi Jun 25, 2009 9:48:10 PM



gk_in_wisc says:

I feel a lot better after seeing the post from englishchannel and their comments on Saratoga tickets. NO I HAVE NOT received any word about tickets yet and it has been a long time since my check was cashed. maybe we will all have to wait and then we will receive them. It is only one month until Saratoga-gotta love this time of the yr!!!!!!! can't wait - with or without tickets!

Posted by gk_in wisc Jun 25, 2009 8:49:25 PM



walt says:

Stonefish:

I looked at the chart of that Delaware race, and indeed races where entered for $10,000 or less did not count towards eligibility. That's why Rikim (who finished last) was eligible.

This is quite common with claiming races at Philadelphia Park, where in races for $5,000 claimers that have not won 1-2 races in six months, races where entered for $4,000 or less do not count, allowing horses who win for such at Penn National to come over and race here for the higher tag.

Posted by Walt Jun 25, 2009 5:49:38 PM



unitas says:

Hey Prozacjack, I'm not sure about California, but the Racing secretary in NY(NYRA) does a similar deed here...If a stakes race has only entered a few horses with a big name favorite entered, they will card this "feature" race earlier on the card, say the third race or so. This is for the reason being that NYRA wants to see as many pick-6- carryovers as possible...

Posted by Unitas Jun 25, 2009 5:30:32 PM



gary_c says:

Steve
Called my state senator Craig Johnson on Maonday. He was not in and I spoke to someone in his office concerning the feud between Nassau OTB and the NYRA. Of course they had no idea of what I was refering to. This was very frustrating being that Mr. Johnson is on the committee (might be the chair) that overlooks gambling in NY. I was promised a call back. On Thursday, not having received a call back, I called and was told due to what was going on up in Albany that he had not had a chance to speak to Mr. Johnson. Infact he had not seen Mr. Johnson in 3 weeks. I asked if he was in Argintina, but was assured he was not. Not expecting much action. No mention of any of this in the NY Times either. Another example of the horse racing industry geting the short end of the stick.

Posted by gary c Jun 25, 2009 4:16:54 PM



sean says:

They won't move the Derby into primetime because no one watches TV on Saturday nights anymore. The Derby does insane ratings compared to other sporting events in its timeslot and there's no way NBC is messing with that.

You start going into Saturday night and you have people going out and not watching TV.

However, it would not surprise me at all to see them push the start time back a 1/2 hour or an hour thanks to the lights. A 7:15, 730 post would be cool.

Posted by Sean Jun 25, 2009 4:06:27 PM



steven_crist says:

stonefish51: This is just a guess, as this was an "extra" race not in the original condition book so I can't find the full conditions: Frequently in starter-allowances like this, there's a "Races where entered for less than $10,000 not considered in eligibility" clause at the very end of the conditions, and it might have gotten cut off.

Posted by steven_crist Jun 25, 2009 3:57:25 PM



paul says:

The Kentucky Derby should be run at night because the betting pool would be bigger because there would be more time make bets and, then, more time to second guess oneself and make additional bets.

Posted by Paul Jun 25, 2009 3:38:55 PM



ky_crusader_75 says:

to PP: re: the Superfecta payout at Evangeline Downs. The results state that the Superfecta paid $ 204,398.40 for $2 and there is no way the pool was that large. So, we can conclude that there was no $2 bettor with a winning ticket. Most likely there was a single, or perhaps a few, winners of the $0.10 payout of $10K that you noted.

Posted by KY Crusader 75 Jun 25, 2009 3:38:43 PM



stonefish51 says:

Hi Steve,

This is off topic but I'm hoping that you could explain something to me that I don't understand regarding Thursday's card at Delaware (the 24th).

My problem concerns the eligibility of a Horse named RIKIM to have entered the 5th race given the conditions. The race conditions were: For three year-olds and upward which have started for a claiming price of $10,000 or less in 2008-2009 AND which have not won two races in 2009.

RIKIM had won 3 races in 2009 prior to this race.

Did someone gaff or am I missing something?


Posted by stonefish51 Jun 25, 2009 3:13:41 PM



prozacjack says:

Dear Steve, and fellow Horse Players,Prozac is as "MAD AS HELL" and I'm not going to take it anymore. I just emailed the Racing Secratary at Hollywood Park calling for his RESIGNATION. I'm SICK and TIRED of this "numb skull" carding Maiden and Maiden claiming races as the LAST race of the day. This race should be RESERVED for Horses with established FORM, So a person has a REAL chance at re-couping if he happens to be STUCK at the end of the day.The Idiots in the Racing offices across this Country HAVE to be WEEDED out, they are trying their BEST to turn a "Thinking " mans game into a four legged LOTTERY.Management has gotten into the MANIPULATION of race card business,in order to PRODUCE Pick-6 carryovers and THIS practice has to be STOPPED, Management should have "NO" interest in the outcome of ANY race, and Today this is NOT true.They now EQUATE us with SLOT machine players, what a SAD mistake. We the Horse players spend more time and money, on IMPROVING our game than ANY other group in all of sports, and yet we are TREATED like a bunch of LOSERS, by a group of ALSO-RANS that comprise the racing offices across this nation. You are NEVER going to have a HEALTHY lawn UNTIL you get RID of the WEEDS.This is our sport, this is OUR passion, Lets take it BACK for the MINDLESS, get your pens out and email these Nit-wits,WE CAN TURN THIS MESS AROUND...LOL

Posted by prozacjack Jun 25, 2009 12:16:14 PM



el_angelo says:

Horse racing wants to attract a wider audience of people under 40 and they'll run the Derby on a Saturday night when most people on the East Coast are already out? What's Plan B, Tuesday afternoon?

Posted by El Angelo Jun 25, 2009 11:18:03 AM



englishchannel says:

Has anyone heard from NYRA about the Saratoga Ticket lottery? I'm in category 3 (ordered tickets for a couple of saturdays) but haven't heard a thing. The meet starts in a month and they don't have seats assigned? The applications were sent in almost 5 months ago and they can't get it figured out? NYRA is as disorganized as the company I work for.

Posted by EnglishChannel Jun 25, 2009 9:45:32 AM



callmetony says:

Hey Steve

I love the Obama money . Ha ,,,,where do find these images ? Very creative . As for Derby at night as 1 blogger said its all ready @ night !!!!! They will never move it . But then again in this sport ???????
You think anyone is paying attention to all this flap about Rachel not wanting to run on plastic and Calvin backing it up . Are the powers that control the Breeders Cup listening ?

Posted by callmetony Jun 25, 2009 9:26:52 AM



walt says:

Concerning the night concept:

While yes, part of that is the fact Churchill is currently running the three night programs (the last of which is actually next Thursday, July 2), even if Churchill did not have the lights, I could see the Derby airing from 7:00-9:00 PM ET on NBC with the Derby the last race of the card and post time around 8:10-8:15 PM (it is light out enough that late in early May at Churchill for that). The TV rating this year (10.2, which again would have been higher than any other show in prime time on NBC the week of April 27-May 3 had it qualified for the prime time ratings) to me is the main factor, but again, the potential of increased handle from Asia and Australia is also why I could see Oaks and Derby cards next spring AND next fall's Breeders' Cup all winding up being at night for the first time. Sure, there would be the risk of a cold, wet night for a Derby in early May, but the fact is, the Derby's Saturday rating is now higher than that of the National Semifinals of the NCAA Tournanemt in March and even the World Series in the fall, and the potential handle from Asia and Australia to me makes it a no-brainer to push the Derby further into the evening than it is with the Oaks going to Friday night and the Breeders' Cup in the fall also becoming a nighttime event in 2010. Would Louisville itself be teed off? I would think so, but they would simply have to adjust by everything following the Oaks and Derby being pushed back further into the night than they already are.

That said, the Stephen Foster Card as suggested is an ideal lynchpin to be run on the Saturday night of the week following The Belmont Stakes (or two weeks after The Belmont if the week following is the week of the US Open Golf Championships, especially in years like 2010 when that event is on the west coast and can go well into prime time). The five stakes (besides the Foster, the Jefferson Cup, Northern Dancer, Regret and Fleur de Lis) that made up the 2008 Foster card at Churchill can serve as anchors to a made-for-TV Saturday night prime time racing program that can total 9-10 races if done right. Other stakes that I would be looking at for this Saturday night of racing could include the Pennsylvania Governor's Cup at Penn National (increased this year to $200,000, one of the richer turf sprints in the US) and The Manhattan Stakes at Belmont Park (pushed back from Belmont Stakes week and switched with the Odgen Phipps, which would move to Belmont Stakes Day).

The big hold-up for this right now is the uncertain situation with what will happen to the stakes at Hollywood Park if Hollywood does close as it is now expected to at the end of this year. If Hollywood somehow manages to remain open for 2010, then the Charles Whittingham, Milady, Gamely and Shoemaker Mile can be among the races considered to be part of this.

Such a made-for-TV night of racing can be a prototype for what I would call "Saturday Night At The Races," which could work as a monthly series of (usually) 9-10 races, anchored by 2-3 major races and 6-8 other significant stakes in a fast-paced, three hour format leading up to the Breeders' Cup in the fall that actually can start in April with the final major Derby preps coupled and races for older horses all bunched together and continue on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend, while the Foster Day card could anchor the June edition and two more such in July and August. If Hollywood Park does remain open beyond 2009, the July edition could be anchored by the American Oaks, Hollywood Gold Cup, Triple Bend and Swaps Stakes with the August edition anchored by both the Travers and Pacific Classic. Given how poor Saturday night TV ratings are as a whole (especially during the summer), if an experimental made-for-TV Saturday night card headlined by the Foster even got a 2.0-2.5 rating, it might be enough to make this a once-a-month series between April and August that can help build momentum before, during and following the Triple Crown races.

Posted by Walt Jun 25, 2009 9:13:17 AM



pp says:

Could someone please tell me if Evangeline's 7th race superfecta payout was a pool-scooper? It paid over $10K fo a dime wager. The sequence wasn't that tough, and one could have made an argument against the lukewarm chalks in the race. I'd imagine the tougher part of the play was to include the winner and 4th place finisher on the same ticket....does anyone have any other recent recollections of pool-scoopers?

Posted by PP Jun 24, 2009 10:49:13 PM



haelaih says:

Let's face it, the Kentucky Derby IS basically run at night right now.
Q:What will they push it back to?
A: 9:01 EST, with 3 hrs of commercials.
A Super Bowl with four legs?
Most would NOT buy into that.
Have to love Rachael Alexandra NOT running in the Breeder's Cup due to Spastic Plastic, err, Poly Crap, err, PolyTurf.
Hay is for horses, but the powers that be would change even that.
Ah, the business life,

Posted by haelaih Jun 24, 2009 10:47:11 PM



mike says:

NYRA becoming quite arrogant in their ways since they were awarded the franchise.

May be time for the upstate politicians to hear it from all of us loyal NYRA players re the arrogance of the current NYRA management.

Posted by mike Jun 24, 2009 7:42:55 PM



mlnj says:

Yeah. Let's play golf at night too. Count me out if they run the Derby at night. I resolve not to even watch.

Posted by ml/nj Jun 24, 2009 7:12:52 PM



wayne80 says:

I singled Storm Hope, what in the world was Castellano waiting for???? He rode a classic Diane Nelson race.

Posted by Wayne80 Jun 24, 2009 4:39:14 PM



unitas says:

...It is utterly ridiculous that Nassau residents have been cut off of the track feed from NYRA due to a dispute they have not settled yet with Nassau OTB. Can you imagine any other business shutting out their customers due to a problem they have with a vendor or sattelite company? Shameful & disgraceful. I have written a few letters to NYRA CEO Charles Hayward, asking to explain why customers are being harrased and what he intends to do about this situation. As you can guess, I haven't heard back from him. I believe NYRA has this attitude that NY bettors are all degenerates, and no matter what consequences are levied on them, they will come back due to "fix" they need daily. Time for us to tell NYRA no more, that there are plenty of alternatives for us(the bettors) to explore. I urge everyone who is affected by this unneccesary blackout of this programming to not wager on any NYRA races until this is resolved, and who knows, maybe we will not have a reason to return to NYRA by that time. I would LOVE if all who are effected by this asinine decision to avoid attending Belmont this coming Sunday, and most importantly, avoid wagering any monies on NYRA races as well on Sunday. I don't know if it will make a difference or not, but how else can we be heard? This can only work if we all band together and show NYRA that we do not need to be treated in such a manner. How long before NYRA goes bankrupt again? I'm sure it will be much sooner than later...

Posted by Unitas Jun 24, 2009 4:34:50 PM



crich says:

It's not sour grapes. Castellano has twice as many 2nds as 1sts. He has a bad habit of getting beat with the best horse. Used 2 and 10 as A's, got a good ride from Luzzi but 9 furlongs is probably too long for that horse.
I also found a way to use Samyn/Turner instead of Dominguez/Clement as a "B" horse. Must have thought it's 1985 and not 2009.
This is why I get 4 and 5 out of 6 with a bunch of 2nds.

Posted by C.Rich Jun 24, 2009 4:15:58 PM



patrick says:

I thought Storm Hope would be a little short over the heavy turf after so much time away. Will be using as a single next time out for sure. Don't feel bad I am down to a 1x1x1 one of which is 15-1.

Posted by Patrick Jun 24, 2009 3:57:07 PM



medi_in_new_york says:

Hi Steve!
Sending you all the best toward today's Pick 6 at Belmont. I'd love to follow your selections- ^_^!

Posted by Medi in New York Jun 24, 2009 2:55:22 PM



barry says:

Until recently Major League Baseball was loathe to schedule night games in April and early May because of the weather. Would it make the triple crown even tougher to hit when the horses have to go back to day racing for the Preakness and Belmont?

Posted by Barry Jun 24, 2009 2:40:47 PM



brian says:

The Derby running at night is comical. First, it's basically run at night right now. What's the posttime, 6:30? Second, yes there are bigger audiences at night for the networks, but not on Saturdays. They don't even run original programming anymore because nobody is watching. Unless the Derby runs on Thursday or Sunday, forget it. Finally, why would Churchill Downs/NBC mess with a good thing. They draw great ratings as it is right now. It's really the only horse race the casual fans watch, unless a Triple Crown is on the line at Belmont.

Posted by Brian Jun 24, 2009 2:31:17 PM



jeff_tatus says:

I have spent all of 6 hours looking at this Pick 6 sequence and without a sufficient bankroll (1.5K) I would have to take a pass. There are at least 3 horses in every race that have a shot; some races have more.

If race 5 were On instead of Off turf, I would single the 3 and maybe take a shot. This looks like it could be a 15K payoff or a 100K payoff.

Good luck Steve... just look our for race 6; Morrison (or anyone else for that matter) could win this race... except maybe the 9.

Posted by Jeff Tatus Jun 24, 2009 2:25:32 PM



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Steven Crist has been the Publisher and a columnist for Daily Racing Form since 1998. Previously, he covered racing for The New York Times from 1981-1990; was founding editor-in-chief of The Racing Times in 1991-92; and a vice-president of the New York Racing Association from 1994-97. He recently released an instructional DVD titled "Exotic Tickets," and is the author of several books including "Betting on Myself" and "Exotic Betting."