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Crist Blog | June 14, 2009Print

Rough Weekend for Stars


The four recent Eclipse Award finalists who raced this weekend all lost as heavy favorites, with three of them finishing 4th or worse.

Music Note: Last year's Mother Goose, CCA Oaks and Gazelle winner, and third to Proud Spell and Eight Belles in the voting for the 3-year-old filly championship, ran fifth in the G1 Ogden Phipps at Belmont Saturday as part of a three-ply entry favored at 7-to-20. Music Note, held out of the Shuvee last month after training poorly, made a brief surge into contention entering the stretch turn but had nothing in the tank after that and was beaten 10 3/4 lengths.

Einstein: A finalist for both the Older Male and Turf Male titles last year, Einstein was bidding for a third straight Grade 1 victory in Saturday's Stephen Foster at Churchill Downs, and also trying to become just the second horse (joining Lava Man) to win Grade 1's on dirt, grass and synth. Einstein ran third, beaten just a length and a nose, after a titanically bad trip that prompted this unusually long and dramatic official chart footnote: "Einstein bobbled at the start to get away a bit slow, checked off heels near the seven-eighths marker, was bottled up between horses down the backstretch and through the second turn, shifted out a bit and found a seam entering the stretch, was bumped and stuffed behind rivals with three-sixteenths to run, got through towards the inside late but was left with too much to do."

Kip DeVille: The 2007 Breeders' Cup Mile winner, and runner-up in that race last year, led to the top of the stretch but then faded badly and ran fourth of five as the 0.75-1 favorite in the G3 Poker at Belmont Sunday. The Belmont turf was soft -- the winning time was 1:36.50, as opposed to Kip DeVille's 1:32.94 winning last year's Poker -- but he's won on soft turf before, including the 2007 Breeders' Cup Mile, which was run in a boggy 1:39.78.

Indian Blessing: The champion female sprinter of 2008 and champion 2-year-old filly of 2007 was 1-2  in the Desert Stormer at Hollywood Park Sunday. She stalked Coco Belle early but was laboring by upper stretch and faded to finish fourth, beaten 5 1/2 lengths. Although Indian Blessing has run decently on synthetic tracks before, she clearly is a much better filly on real dirt, and trainer Bob Baffert said she's headed back to that surface and New York.

Kip Deville and Indian Blessing and Kip DeVille were making their first starts since racing on the Dubai World Cup card March 28, supplying further ammunition to those who believe American horses often fare poorly when returning from that taxing trip.

The Shuvee and Desert Stormer were both run as the fourth race on their cards, a ploy by track managements to increase the likelihood of a Pick-Six carryover by keeping races with apparent "cinches" out of the sequence. At least California can argue that it's exposing its stakes racing to eastern simulcast customers this way, but Belmont's running a Grade 1 stakes at 2:37 p.m. just seems a little tacky. It's also questionable whether it accomplished anything. Both the Phipps and the allowance race run in its place were won by the second choice, so there probably would have been a carryover either way, and the bet handled only $81,446 with the Phipps removed from the sequence. The late pick-4 missed its $350,000 guarantee by $12,364.


--A few other notes on the weekend's racing, which included nine graded stakes:


 

--Note above that the Fleur De Lis was slightly faster than the Stephen Foster, which was run half an hour later at the same distance. The first five Foster finishers were only 1 1/4 lengths apart. The older males are not exactly an imposing division this year.

--Obrigado will be the only horse to run in two American graded stakes at more than 12 furlongs this year: he finished third in the San Juan Capistrano April 19 and then won Saturday's Round Table, both 1 3/4-mile races. The Breeders' Cup Marathon has been lengthened to 1 3/4 miles this year but is not yet a graded stakes because this will be only its second edition.

--That's the same reason that Saturday's $200k Monmouth Stakes, invented last year to lure Big Brown, is not a graded race this year. This second edition, however, may have been the most stirring race of the weekend. Presious Passion did almost exactly what he did in the MacDiarmada two starts back, setting the pace, looking absolutely cooked at the top of the stretch, and then improbably rerallying at the rail to win a photo. No one's posted the Monmouth on YouTube yet, but here's that MacDiarmada in case you missed it the first time around:

I admit that my initial affection for Presious Passion began with his completing a Pick-4 at 67-1 in the McKnight two Decembers ago, but he has turned into one of my favorite horses since then for his genuine will to win.

Posted by Steven Crist Jun 14, 2009 7:45:19 PM | Permalink



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rick_b says:

Steven, after Dutrow got nailed with "This ones for Phil" the enitre racing community changed its' attitude toward drugging. This stuff has been going on since Aksarben! I believe horses should be treated exactly like atheletes. No questions asked. If a trainer gets caught then ban him! I have enough trouble handicapping without having to figure in the cheaters.

Posted by Rick B Jul 7, 2009 8:04:31 PM



jimbo32 says:

brand_x, you bring up a lot of good close calls with the Triple Crown, but for my money the one horse in recent years who SHOULD have won the Triple Crown didn't lose the Belmont. If Jeremy Rose didn't make a tactical error in the stretch at Churchill Downs, Afleet Alex would have been a TC champion. And certainly going 12 furlongs in his third race in five weeks had no adverse impact at all on him. He won the Belmont with ease. Another one just like him was Point Given, whose TC was foiled by a horrible draw in the Derby but then obliterated the other two legs.

Posted by jimbo32 Jun 19, 2009 4:30:43 PM



chris_lowe says:

to ponyman:
you realize Hialeah ,to the best of my knowledge, will be running quarterhorses only?

Posted by chris lowe Jun 18, 2009 10:18:45 AM



rob_s says:

Regarding the Triple Crown, I don't see how it would have much of an effect on the sport anyway. Unless we are fortunate enough to have a gelding get it, what could it do? If the horse isn't gelded then we have at best, say four more races with him. How exactly will the general public rally around a horse that only shows up four more times before going to stud. Give me a Triple Crown winner and within 5 months he's retired.

Leave the Triple Crown alone so at least it will be worth something when it's accomplished again. By Christmas the world will have forgotten who it was anyway.

Posted by rob s Jun 18, 2009 8:41:39 AM



brand_x says:

In regard to the Triple Crown:

Part 2:

Keep in mind:

If Kent Desormeaux doesn't move Real Quiet a little too soon, he's a Triple Crown winner.

If not for Gary Stevens putting Point Given so close to the lead (5 lengths?), he probably would have won the
Triple Crown. He even admitted it. When I saw how close he was on the first turn I doubted he wouldnt have anything left in the stretch. His wins in the Preakness and Belmont were from well off the pace, that was his style. Blame that on human error, not the horse.

If Empire Maker hadn't had bad feet, he might have won a TripleCcrown.

If Stewart Elliot hadn't thought he was on Secretariat and moved Smarty Jones too soon he would have won a
Triple Crown (even though Smarty Jones wasn't bred to go that far, outran his pedigree, and also ran against the maybe the weakest crop in modern history). Blame that on ego, not the horse.

Had Mike Smith on Mine That Bird not had to go from the rail to 7 wide and steady in the process....and had Calvin Borel not moved too soon on him in the Belmont, maybe we have aTtriple Crown winner. Blame that on racing luck and human error, not the horse.

In my opinion, Summer Bird was the best bred horse in the Triple Crown, and the best bred for distance. Imagine
if he had raced at 2, or ran his first race in January or February, and hadn't had to run his first 4 races in 2 months, including the Derby. Maybe he's a Triple Crown winner. That is more races in less time than the Triple Crown span and yet he won the Belmont in his just his 5th career race. Tim Ice did a fabulous job with him.

With younge sires like Medaglia d' Oro, Empire Maker, and Birdstone (in his first crop), I think we will see a Triple Crown winner in the very the near future. All these sires were long distance runners with distance in their breeding on both sides. With them now being bred to dams with distance breeding, I think we are close to seeing a horse with all the right distance and class breeding to win a Triple Crown.

After all, the Triple Crown is all about speed and stamina with the Belmont being the test of champions. If you shorten the distance and lengthen time inbetween races....you might as well run the Belmont at 7 furlongs with 5 weeks rest. If any change was made, I would add an extra week between the Derby and the Preakness.

All in all....with some smarter rding, less ego, a little better health, an earlier start, and some racing luck, we should have had at least 2 or 3 Triple Crown winners in the last 11 years. How,then,can anybody want to change the current setup or complain about it. It separates the men from the boys and the great ones from the good ones.

It takes a great horse and a great trainer to accomplish it. It wasn't meant to be accomplished every other year.

Thats the mystique about it, and why it is so hard and rarely accomplished.

Is it really worth changing? I don't think it is.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted by brand x Jun 17, 2009 11:39:06 PM



barry says:

In no way would I want change the triple crown format; I just wonder if there is an additional factor in the recent drought.

Although I am no expert on European racing, from what I understand North American breeding has become a victim of its own success as Europeans have become more active in stateside auctions. Could this be at least one factor contributing to the lack of a triple crown winner all these years?

North American bidders have to consider the lack of mile and a half races after the Belmont. If you look at pedigrees of the last few Kentucky Derby winners, Big Brown in particular, it is about speed. Does this change in tactics reflect a loss of more traditional pedigrees to European bidders?

Posted by Barry Jun 17, 2009 10:58:03 PM



walt says:

C:

My belief is concerning lengthening the BC Races and so forth is you sometimes have to drive change down the throats, and this may be a case where you have to do so, taking the bull by the horns.

By lengthening the BC Classic to 1 5/8 Miles while at the same time rewarding those who race more frequently and also at the same time for the Derby basically force horses to make more starts (especially at three) leading up to the Derby would have the effect to me of having fewer injuries over time. This would be coupled with other changes I would make, most notably making it so retiring horses at three is no longer worthwhile (i.e.: Making it so if a horse is retired at three, his offspring is ineligible to race until the stallion reaches his 13th birthday, with two years taken off from that for horses making a minimum of 10 starts in each of his four and five year old seasons, forcing most top horses to race through their five year old campaigns).

And as for running the BC Classic at 1 5/8 Miles, I said that distance over 1 1/2 Miles in part because most tracks can run 1 5/8 Miles, albeit around three turns (and on 1 1/8 Mile tracks, starting near the far turn). That move to me would have the effect of many other major stakes being lengthened, forcing trainers, breeders, etc. to change their ways. Would we see some suffering at first? Of course, but long-term, this is a change that needs to be made.

Posted by Walt Jun 17, 2009 10:47:22 PM



dan_mackenzie says:

jcp:

This link to 2009 info from the Saratoga County Chamber of Commerce states that Restaurant Row is "continuing this year"

http://www.saratoga.org/visitors/saratoga-race-course.asp

Posted by Dan MacKenzie Jun 17, 2009 6:52:51 PM



fort_marcy says:

Sincere condolences to Team Valor and particularly trainer J. Toner. The bizare death of Sailor's Cap is not front page news, but I think this colt could of done very well.
If the colt was off Sunday, he sure did not run like a tired horse. I thought considering track conditions,his time was very good.
This is a tough game, one can only imagine, how the connections of this fine tragic colt must feel.

Posted by fort marcy Jun 17, 2009 6:39:04 PM



ponyman says:

Hialeah--will it open-Florida signed some bill there the other day. HOPE SO=was there once-truly majestic--Brunetti go for it--Thanks. My favorite that I,ve been to.

Arlington,Del Mar,Monmouth,Saratoga,Santa Anita,Gulfstream,Belmont,Calder,Tampa Bay,Philly Park,Garden State,Atlantic City- in that order as best to worst--Great racing to all

Posted by ponyman Jun 17, 2009 3:22:55 PM



brand_x says:

In regard to the Triple Crown:

Part 1:

What makes the Triple Crown, as it is, so special?

Answer:
1. Tradition, over 100 years worth (less and less of that in today's world).
2. The history.
3. The mystique.
4. The excitement.
5. The top 3 year olds in the country competing in a three race World Series, with many of the top horses who have never raced against each other, and newcommers in the last two races.... coming together to crown a champion if he is good enough to win all three, and at different distances that none have ever run nor will most ever run again.
6. It is so hard to achieve, change the setup and you lessen the achievement.
7. 31 year droughts proves how rare it can be achieved, making it that much more special, and what an accomplishment it really is, not only for the horse, but the trainer and jockey as well.
8. The droughts make it that much more intriguing, more mystique, and creates more interest, excitement, and
hope.
9. All the major prep races, including the 2 year old races, months and months before the Derby.
10. All the media coverage and anticipation in the weeks leading up to the Derby, and the days in between each race. Each next race can't come quick enough, with alot of impatience in between.
11. It's the ultimate dream and goal for every owner, breeder, trainer, and jockey, and their place in history.
12. The great stories behind the horses, owners, breeders, trainers, and jockeys.
13. The feel good stories every year.
14. Horses like Mine That Bird being bought for $9,500, proving the little guy can steal the show, and you don't
have to be a gazillionaire, an oil sheik, or own a huge breeding farm in Lexington to win it all.
15. Guys likeTom McCarthy and Bennie Stutz with one horse stables, and that one horse being good enough to make it to the Triple Crown.
16. Guys like Tom McCarthy and Bennie Stutz trainingl into their 70's, proving the best years in life can be over 60..... even on the backstretch.
17. Guys like Tom McCarthy, who didn't START training horses till into his 60's and after retirement from a lifelong job.
18. Guys like Chip Wooley, lifelong trainers at bush tracks, training $5,000 claimers all their life, who were really down on their luck for a long
time....getting the chance of a lifetime when they least expected it, even in their 60's and 70's.
19. The huge media attention from all over the world, giving the sport the attention and interest it needs and deserves, attracting new fans and bettors.
20. Seeing over 100,000 people at Churchill, the infield full and people having a great time, even if they have no idea whats going on all the time, or cant see the horses..... 75,000 and more at the Preakness and Belmont.
21. Cashing a ticket worth $864,000 for a $1 bet.
22. $100 million being bet in the Derby, $58 million in the Preakness, and $46 million in the Belmont.
23. Huge interest from people who have never been to a horse race, or maybe the only horse races the've ever been to, or the only races they've watched on T.V., or the only races they've ever bet on. People who's only
interest in horse racing and betting a horse race is for the Derby or 3 races a year, every year.
24. Us lifelong diehards who truely love and appreciate the sport and the Triple Crown more than any other sport... some of us watching, attending, and betting horses for 75% or more of our lives... understanding the
complexity, the competitiveness, and the challenge of not only what it takes to win any or all of those three races, but also picking the winner and betting those races (including exotics) correctly.
25. A half hour after the Belmont you wish it wasn't all over, thinking summer won't be quite the same until the Breeder's Cup is near.
26. One hour after the Belmont you can't wait for next year's Triple Crown.
27. The day after the Belmont you start watching all the 2 year old maiden and stakes races at major tracks and looking for that "special one".

Is any of this worth risking for change?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted by brand x Jun 17, 2009 12:48:20 PM



jcp says:

I just got my Saratoga brochure in the mail..There is no mention of the "Restaurant Row" they had last year, which featured great food from the in-town eateries...Any info?

Posted by jcp Jun 17, 2009 10:36:43 AM



bill says:

yeah steve precious passion just refused to lose, what a great heart... i also became a fan in the mcknight as i had him because he was a taulbot"v" angle @67-1.....
steve could you please give out the data of last years turf races @saratoga..
post position win %
inner turf sprints......
inner turf route........
outter turf sprints.....
outter turf routes......

as always thanks........

Posted by $BILL Jun 16, 2009 10:58:08 PM



ky_crusader_75 says:

Walt-Interesting thoughts but I think that a number of factors conspire to make your proposals unlikely to happen. Key among those hurdles is the fact that breeding promises more income than racing horses so owners are unlikely to risk a stallion who might be worth 90 X $50,000 (or $400,000 if they catch lightning in a bottle)per year for the next 15 or 20 years. Once a horse has sufficient black type the owner is thinking of stud fees. I wish we did have more classic distance races, but horses today re bred for speed and precocity. There are very few who could handle the distances you propose. Adding longer stakes races would have to be done gradually, giving breeding practices time to change. Otherwise we could look forward to seeing a lot of milers staggering home the last quarter of a marathon.

Posted by KY Crusader 75 Jun 16, 2009 8:29:19 PM



el_angelo says:

The simplest way to get people to run their horses in more Triple Crown races is to make it worth their while: increase the purse sizes. A $1 million purse sounds great (for the Preakness or Belmont), but compared to $500k-$750k at slot-fueled tracks against lesser competition, it's not that enticing, especially when you consider that you'd have to come back on "short rest" from the Derby. But increase all 3 legs to have $3 million purses, and you'd see full fields quickly. Too bad 2 of the 3 tracks are in financial dire straits...

Posted by El Angelo Jun 16, 2009 6:26:17 PM



c says:

Walt,
Memorial Day weekend for racing fans is all about the Met Mile. We don't need the Preakness the same day. As for your 1 5/8 BC Classic, how are they going to run that race at Churchill, or most other tracks for that matter? You can't just change the distance to whatever you want. Tracks have to already be configured to handle it. I'm not a big believer in changing breeding/training practices through the distances of big races. There are so many (too many) other blacktype opportunities on the calendar at shorter distances. Races are written for horses, not the other way around.

Posted by C Jun 16, 2009 4:36:47 PM



raps07 says:

Had to put in my 2 cents on Prozac's wonderful list.

Living in Toronto, I have seen the OJC or Woodbine Entertainment get extremely lucky due to the slots. Purses run at Woodbine are rediculously high, fields quite large and racing is thriving. The grandstand is crowded again and racing is alive.

How did they do it ? Luck. When the slots when in, they could not charge parking any more. Because the slots are in the grandstand, they could not charge admission anymore. This has been huge as young people are stopping in and playing races again.

Prozac mentioned that players love to get things free and beat the system. Well at Woodbine, the biggest oneday event is Chinese Day at the Races. The Chinese papers have coupons for drinks, free programs, activities and the place is jammed. Imagine, give people a couple bucks off and they will bring $200 to bet.

But the tracks do not realize this. People want to beat the system. Give them a free bus ride to a casino, $5 betting voucher and the bus is full. They may lose $500 in the slots, BUT, they got a free ride.

It's time tracks who charge admission, parking etc come to the realization there has to be more. Thanks again Prozac

Posted by raps07 Jun 16, 2009 12:55:10 PM



walt says:

With regard to changing the Triple Crown:

My thinking is there does need to be some change, but in my case it would be a relatively minor one when compared to the "drastic" measures some have had:

I would simply push back the Preakness by one week beginning in 2010 (with it next year on May 22 and then on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend beginning in 2011), with the Belmont also one week later (on June 12 in 2010 and on the Saturday of Father's Day weekend beginning in 2011). There is a precedent for doing that, and that is prior to 1969, there only was a two week gap between the Preakness and Belmont Stakes (the 1968 Belmont in fact was actually contested on Memorial Day weekend as it was on Saturday, June 1, and at that time Memorial Day was still observed on May 30, a Thursday that year, and there were a few years where The Belmont was actually contested in late May), and there also were years where The Belmont was four weeks after the Preakness. Having The Preakness and Belmont one week later than at present would not diminish a Triple Crown winner anywhere near as much as other changes that could be made.

The thoughts about why horses make fewer starts today to me makes sense. To me, horses are "babied" way too much like pitchers are in baseball, and if anything, I think the reason we see more injuries now is the fact horses don't race enough, much the same as why we see many more arm injuries in baseball than we used to over the last 15 years or so (something in baseball Nolan Ryan is trying to change with the Texas Rangers). I suspect we would see fewer injuries than at present if trainers and owners had the guts to race their horses more frequently, and tracks in turn went back to spacing their major stakes closer together like it used to be (or worked together so horses would be racing more frequently against each other at different venues).

What really needs to be done in my opinion is for Breeders' Cup, Ltd. to have the guts to make some significant changes to the distances of the Breeders' Cup races and at the same time change the preferences to give horses who race more frequently starting berths over horses who don't race as often. The biggest change I would make would be to lengthen the BC Classic to 1 5/8 Miles and at the same time at least return the BC Distaff to its original distance of 1 1/4 Miles (if not also lengthen that to 1 5/8 Miles), while the Dirt Mile would be renamed the "BC Middle Distance" and be run at 1 1/8 Miles for those trainers who either don't know how or don't want to train their horses properly to run 1 5/8 Miles. Doing so would immediately in all likelyhood cause NYRA to return The Jockey Club Gold Cup to at least 1 1/2 Miles (where it was run from 1976-'89) and many other major stakes would in the process be lengthened from 1 1/8 to 1 1/4-1 5/8 Miles (with the BC Marathon lengthened to 2 1/4 Miles). A point system could be used that rewards racing (and winning) frequently that gives major incentive for trainers to have horses make on average 12-18 starts a year with a top horse. All of this to me would have a ripple effect on the training of top three year olds, who suddenly would be racing more frequently like they used to and come into the Triple Crown more "race ready" and have a better shot at actually winning it as they would come in more prepared in my opinion. Churchill Downs could also crack down in this manner of more frequent starts by making it clear that horses who have made more starts in Graded stakes as three year olds would be given preference over horses with lighter racing schedules (with points awarded for each start made in Graded stakes and more for better finishes).

Drugs are another issue, obviously, and changes there do need to be made in that regard as well. This, however, is something that can't be changed overnight, but to me it can be done if it is phased in over a period of time, most likely in the following manner:

Beginning in 2010: No more having horses do one furlong drills as two year olds in training and using other items of any kind to make yearlings and two year olds "sale ready." Horses will have to "make it" in the sales on their natural appearence. Two year olds will also be barred from racing on any medication of any kind, having to race on hay, oats and water only. In addition, horses racing in the Triple Crown, Breeders' Cup and other selected Grade 1 events (Travers, Jockey Club Gold Cup, Arlington Million, Santa Anita Handicap, etc.) would not be permitted to have any race day medication for such races either. There is a precedent for this in Harness Racing: In the Hambletonian and its filly counterpart (Hambletonian Oaks), horses are NOT permitted to race on any race-day medication of any kind, and it seems to have little effect on their ability.

2011: The ban on medication is extended to three year olds until after the Triple Crown races EXCEPT where they are facing older horses who are permitted to race on allowed medication. The stakes ban on medication would be expanded to ALL Grade 1 and Grade 2 stakes.

2012: Same bans for two and three year olds while the ban on stakes races is expanded to ALL Graded stakes events of any kind. Also, beginning in 2012, any trace of medication would constitute a positive test, and trainers with such would be subject to harsh penalities if proven the trainer was at fault for that.

2013: All race day medication is banned, and any trace consitutes a positive.

These are just some steps that can be done to remedy what has been a serious problem in recent years with the sport of kings. Obviously, it would involve everyone involved put aside any differences they may have to put the sport above everything else, but if everyone involved has the guts to do so, that would bring the sport back into the positive light.

Posted by Walt Jun 16, 2009 12:43:46 PM



cat_thief says:

I became a Presious Passion...after watching that race just now! Reminds me of a horse named Buck's Boy.

Posted by cat thief Jun 16, 2009 12:30:17 AM



jpa says:

For anyone that is interested, the Monmouth video is up on the NTRA website. I have a soft spot for PP as his MacDirmida (sp?) was part of the Magna 5 that weekend. Great effort by PP at Monmouth.

Posted by J-PA Jun 15, 2009 9:03:08 PM



turflogician says:

I would assume that when NYRA takes a race off each course, while leaving others on, they are taking off the races that they feel will hold together the best. In other words, keep the biggest fields. For instance, they picked up a starter in the 7th on Sunday when that race came off the turf.

It's rained a lot in NY lately, and while I am sure everyone involved wishes the races stayed on the grass, I'm not sure what else could have been done.

Posted by Turflogician Jun 15, 2009 8:46:47 PM



pop_pops_boy says:

...thought I had a bad weekend until I saw the 400+ thousand dropped on indian blessing to show on sunday. 90+ day lay off and synthetics. That has to to least give u some reservations before you made the play.

ouch...that must have hurt when he landed!!!

Posted by pop pop's boy Jun 15, 2009 6:59:18 PM



fort_marcy says:

Hi Steve,
Is there a reason why US tracks do not offer wagering on Royal Ascot races?
I'm aware of time difference, but is it that difficult to have advance wagering the day before?
Could US hub pool all wagering and link with the host country?
I have watched and played Australian races as well as races from South America.
I was told you can access with a wagering account such as You Bet, but live in a area that does not allow individuals to have an account. Was told, that by law, I could not open an account.
Any feed back would be appreciated.

Posted by fort marcy Jun 15, 2009 6:42:20 PM



dogs_up says:

RE: Einstein ~Any chance we still have concern about horses moving from synthetic plastic manufactured track surface to dirt? Also, Macho Again is the step-up horse after Big Brown left the scene. Macho Again is that good.
I still contend that the attempt to decide a race using the mixing of the surfaces and handicapping creates 'unhandicapable' events.

Posted by dogs up Jun 15, 2009 3:52:46 PM



el_angelo says:

To answer BillM's question, claims and shakes are for individual horses, not entries.

Posted by El Angelo Jun 15, 2009 2:48:07 PM



clinton says:

What happened to Einstein was akin to a gang assault as all parties took their shot to coral and choke the life out both he and his rider. That happens on the street Steve and the law comes after you. Simply and amazing event to have seen live.

Posted by Clinton Jun 15, 2009 2:18:56 PM



cigarvacation says:

I became a Precious Passion fan last year when I singled him in the UN at Monmouth and hit a nice pk4. I'll admit I wasn't fond of him this week and in a contest I mythically had Proudinsky in, I was a little disappointed in Castro's ride. Did he not do any homework on his opponents? More than once prior to Saturday PP showed his gameness at winging incredible fractions and still not backpedaling thru the field. IMO Castro got sucked in and attacked with Proudinsky way to early. This to me was a classic jockey mistake that most certainly cost the horse a better placing

Posted by cigarvacation Jun 15, 2009 12:57:52 PM



gregb says:

Steve,

In response to your recent article on proposed changes to the Triple Crown, I have to say that I agree in spirit, but think that your argument fails to address what I believe is the most compelling reason to change the structure of the Triple Crown. I agree with many of the points in your column. The Triple Crown is a test, and shouldn’t be dumbed down to increase the likelihood of a Triple Crown winner. And I agree that the trend of racing horses more lightly, especially stallion prospects, has had more to do with perception management by owners and trainers in an attempt to maximize stallion value than a decline in the sturdiness of the breed.

When commentators assert that the Triple Crown should not be changed because “this is the way it’s always been done” or “changes would make historical comparisons invalid” my eyes roll back to the very back of my head. These are arguments that fail to pass muster for an industry that has been in a steady state decline for several decades. Horse racing has been losing market share in a sports and entertainment marketplace that is becoming more crowded with every passing year. In order to continue to have a viable sport, horse racing must make some accommodative changes in order to more effectively market the sport to the general public. The process of turning casual fans into lifelong horse racing fans and handicappers is difficult. The conversion ratio of casual fans to handicappers is almost certainly very low. It is in the best interest of the industry to ensure that the sport’s signature events are followed by the broadest audience possible so that the base from which to convert fans to handicappers is as large as possible.

I believe that one idea that should be considered would be to change the scheduling of the Triple Crown. The Kentucky Derby would still be run on the first Saturday in May, while the Preakness would be moved to Memorial Day weekend and the Belmont to Fourth of July weekend. I don’t believe that this increased spacing of the races would increase the likelihood of a Triple Crown winner. In fact, it might make the series more difficult to win. Not only would the Derby winner have to hold his form for a longer period of time, but the Preakness would almost certainly become more difficult with an extra week or two for Derby horses to recuperate. The additional time would also allow later developing horses a better shot at capturing the Preakness or Belmont.

Changing the Triple Crown will not be a panacea to racing’s ills. But raising racing’s profile in the mind of the general public is crucial to the success of any plan to improve the future of the sport. Other issues, such as creating a cohesive stakes schedule, improving the perception of the general public with regards to drug use in the industry, and increasing the availability and reliability of online wagering platforms, along with many other issues, must also be addressed. Most crucial, however, for the long term future of the sport is for race tracks and other stakeholders in the industry to understand who their handicappers, and prospective handicappers, are. Anyone who plays poker online, gambles on football, organizes the office pool for March Madness or plays fantasy sports is directly in the target demographic to be converted into a horse racing handicapper. These people exhibit the traits that all of us who spend so much time and effort handicapping races share. These potential handicappers are missing out on the greatest game in the world. They just don’t know it yet.

Posted by GregB Jun 15, 2009 12:41:53 PM



rob says:

Steve,
I was reading that the figure for the Stephen Foster came back at a lusty 99. Prior to Saturday do you know what the lowest figure has been for a Grade I on regular dirt for three year olds and up. Between the 99 figure in the Foster and the 100 in the Belmont, I am contemplating a big caveman exacta and trifecta box of the Europeans in the Breeders's Cup Classic. I long for the days of Gentleman, Skip Away, Formal Gold, Silver Charm, and Real Quiet. We actually had an older male division of some quality. This is sad.

Posted by Rob Jun 15, 2009 12:33:24 PM



repo_man says:

“unseemly and whorish”…a wonderful choice of words by Yuwipi in summing up NYRA’s classless shuffling of The Phipps Handicap.

I could be enticed to join those clamoring for a change in The Belmont, but it has nothing to do with the difficulty of completing the Triple Crown. The “Test of Champions” has become the “Showcase of Mediocrity”. Sarava, Jazil, Da Tara, and (probably) Summer Bird: winners eligible for a N1X who never accomplished much afterward, either. When the ultimate jewel of the Triple Crown becomes the domain of such arvenu,that’s “unseemly”.

Posted by repo man Jun 15, 2009 12:19:10 PM



wayne80 says:

Its not just the Graded Stakes either, the "feature race" should be the next to last race of the day and should be the best quality race, not the most competitive from a gambling perspective.

I casually invest $100-200 in the Pick Six in three circumstances, a double carryover, most Saturday sequences that include multiple Graded Stakes, and any sequence where I have a strong single (not always the favorite).

I will invest more money more often if NYRA leaves the better quality races in the sequence and I am sure I am not the only one.

Went back to read Prozac's rant and loved it. Two things I would add;

A) for Cristsakes could they please install a 21st Century PA system?

Durkin is one of the most entertaining announcers and close to being a star in his own right, yet NYRA refuses to upgrade the PA so fans can actually enjoy the running of the race.

B) Cheaters need to be punished;

The problem is not solely that testing can not keep up with technology, but rather that when a trainer IS caught they get a slap on the wrist. Until penalties are increased and actually enforced trainers will continue to push the limits.

Three strikes (for non-therapuetic drugs) and you're out, forever.

Immediate mandatory sentencing.

All horses in the barn at the time of ANY drug positive are suspended for the duration of the trainers penalty (unless the owner signs a sworn statement that he/she has changed trainers permanently and acknowledges those horses will never be allowed to return to the penalized trainers barn).

The barn is closed for business, end of story.

These steps will go a long way in returning confidence to the players.

Posted by Wayne80 Jun 15, 2009 11:37:50 AM



brian_mclean says:

Presious Passion is awesome horse, that is impossible not to like. What a will to win!!
Rock/Suffolk folks surely remember the Generazio silks.
Carl Gambardella and the Generazio's used to clean up around these parts with the Concorde horses....

Posted by Brian McLean Jun 15, 2009 11:32:15 AM



plod_boy_jj says:

Precious Passion was a vs ZIP +158 winner in the MacDiarmada according to www.racingflow.com figures, and Saturday’s effort was a repeat performance. He appears to be a mirror image of Miesque's Approval, a multiple vs PLOD winner before taking the 2006 Breeders Cup Mile.
Congratulations, Mary Hartmann & company!

Posted by Plod Boy JJ Jun 15, 2009 10:52:09 AM



michael_thomas says:

"A little tacky" to run the big race as the fourth is an understatement. It's a little like running "Gone With The Wind" as the first film in a double bill with "Andy Hardy Breaks Wind." Philly Park thinking, anybody?

Posted by Michael Thomas Jun 15, 2009 10:48:51 AM



robert_ginnerty says:

My observation over many years is that the nyra will try to run one race over each turf course and cancel the cheaper races while keeping the feature like sunday. They never tell you why but it is probably the determination of the maintenance crew, who have to repair the turf courses.

Posted by robert ginnerty Jun 15, 2009 10:19:23 AM



aparagon4u says:

Once again the best bet in all of racing came through on Sunday when Indian Blessing ran 4th. The huge negative show pool created monster show payouts. Betting everyone to show cost $14 and returned $121.80, netting me a profit of $107.80. You only have to hit 1/10 of these bets to stay profitable.

Lenny

Posted by aparagon4u Jun 15, 2009 10:10:54 AM



bochalls says:

Steve, I too love Presious Passion. Posted about him last year(around the U.N. Stakes at Mth) and the fact that he often wins at FAT prices. Reminds me a little of the mare Sand Springs, who would run fast early and still have enough left to wire 'em...albeit at only a mile or so, and not the 10-12 furlongs PP goes...what a TERRIBLE week at Bel for me. Played three full cards and cashed 3 minor tickets (maybe just 2)...too wrapped up in trainer moves and fast final fractions on turf to see the real light(which is Ramon Dominguez!!) Or maybe still bummed about the missed P4 with Dunkirk in the Belmont... major speed favoring surface yesterday.

Posted by bochalls Jun 15, 2009 9:53:02 AM



bill_m says:

Steve,
What is NYRA's logic behind running a couple turf races earlier in the card and cancelling later turf races due to 'soft' turf? This happened Sat. and Sun. at Belmont. Also, in New York, if there is an entry in a claiming race and one gets scratched at the gate, but the other part gets to run for the purse only, how does the claiming shake work out? thanks.

Posted by Bill M Jun 15, 2009 7:09:47 AM



ernie_ says:

Eagerly awaiting the bet-against return of Well Armed...

Posted by Ernie Jun 15, 2009 12:18:44 AM



peewee says:

Here's the link for the French oaks won by Stacelita
An impressive run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaV7L-YRsc

Posted by peewee Jun 14, 2009 11:40:28 PM



spectacularbid says:

steve,

you said shuvee when you meant ogden phipps.

[Fixed it, thanks --SC]

i bet she's cheeky to show in the desert stormer on the off chance that indian blessing would experience the dubai bounce. i got 20-1 on my show bet. i never understood those huge show bets.

Posted by spectacularbid Jun 14, 2009 10:37:18 PM



yuwipi says:

Speaking of videos Steve, the Prix de Diane (French Oaks) is up on Youtube. It's quite a show by Stacelita. Worth seeing. My French is weak, but the broadcasts are always entertaining. They have a tag team on the announcer front, and the production people at ABC/ESPN ought to check out how they utilize different camera angles. I am always impressed at the coverage of top notch French races. By the way, anyone checking it out will recognize the colors of the winner - Martin Schwartz. Wonder if we might get to see her at year's end.
Regarding your Triple Crown column, truer words never spoken. I don't know how Lukas or the writer at ESPN can look at just recent history and conclude that the Triple Crown is not winnable. The eight years from '97 to '04 saw 6 horses enter the Belmont going for the TC. I was getting sick of it already! Three of them lost virtually on the wire. To conclude that a TC can't be won without changes is a strange leap of logic IMHO.
As a player who almost never plays the P6 I've always agreed totally with your dislike for moving up "the feature" to an earlier spot on the card.
The thing that really galls me is the total lack of transparency in the process. I also don't know how the trustees of NYRA can allow some dweeb to manipulate races with historic importance. The whole process is unseemly and whorish.

Posted by yuwipi Jun 14, 2009 10:27:21 PM



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Steven Crist has been the Publisher and a columnist for Daily Racing Form since 1998. Previously, he covered racing for The New York Times from 1981-1990; was founding editor-in-chief of The Racing Times in 1991-92; and a vice-president of the New York Racing Association from 1994-97. He recently released an instructional DVD titled "Exotic Tickets," and is the author of several books including "Betting on Myself" and "Exotic Betting."